Ludwig serial numbers O. The Serial Numbers are below. Thread starter Jeremy Bender; Start date Nov 20, 2022; Using the decoder, I found that one of my Ludwig sets was born in July Part I - The Published Serial Number-Based Dating Resources Guides. 24" - #3420481 14" - #3420482 12" - #3420483 Any ideas? THANKS! May 12, 2006 · The new book "Serial Number Based Dating Guides for Vintage Ludwig Drums" by Richard E. Jun 16, 2009 · I don't think there was a specific reason for the random serial numbers Ludwig chose back then, but they can help to identify the years the vintage drums were produced, to an extent. The age of your piano is determined by the Serial Number. May 28, 2020 · 1. We can pretty acurately date Ludwig drums and Ludwig serial numbers are a big help, but not an exact science. Part II - Two New Dating Guides for Main Line Ludwig Drums. But unforeseen then to the drum company, these serial numbers would also be a key to unlock the mystery of how to date post-’63 Ludwig drums that weren’t date-stamped. With the debut of serial numbers, Ludwig helped the dealers comply with the new law. GretschDrumDatingGuide. This 38-page booklet is the definitive guide to dating vintage Ludwig drums by serial number. Below is Ludwig 1960’s Serial Number Time Chart #1. This is the Ludwig Standard badge and serial numbers do not work. Learn how to date Ludwig drums from 1964 to 1969 based on serial number sequence and factory procedures. , 2013. Pianos also have numbers other than serial numbers, such is the case with part or patent numbers. Although speculation and conjec Rick Gier's book Serial Number Based Dating Guides for Vintage Ludwig Drums (published by Rebeats) tells us: That's the BO4 version of the badge with rounded corners and the little (R). Some piano manufacturers place serial numbers in various places. It contains particular number/date stamp pairs chosen from our original serial number index because they serve as good representations of the chronological trend of the serial number sequence. Year: Serial: 1961-62: No number: 1963: No Number - 7900: 1964: 9XXXX - 33449: 1965: Learn how to use Ludwig serial numbers and date stamps to determine the year and time frame of your 1960's Ludwig drum. In 2013 I wrote a serial number based dating guide for Ludwig drums which addresses the shortcomings of the initial dating guides for the 1970s Blue/Olive badge drums and provides a fresh approach. Find out the history and factors that influenced the serial number sequence and the date stamping process. If you're lucky enough, you have a date stamp, or your drum's badge style/number kind of falls into a broad date range from one of the reference Aug 16, 2005 · Does anyone here have any idea of dating a modern Ludwig kit from the Serial Numbers? I recently bought a Ludwig Classic Maple Kit that I'm trying to get somewhat of an idea of it's age. Some pianos do not have serial numbers when they are manufactured as "House Brands" for large retailers. Below you will find information for dating the serial numbers on Ludwig Drums. Gier, is a complete game changer. The web site link is available so feel free to visit their web sites and learn more. See examples, charts and explanations from Ludwig experts and collectors. Dec 31, 2021 · A vintage Ludwig drum made after 1963 that does not have a serial number creates much confusion and spirited debate. Gier, “Ludwig’s Use of Paper Labels in 1971/1972 – Date Stamps and Date Codes” posted to www. Includes the history of Ludwig serial numbers, and an analysis of changing physical characteristics (production clues). The data for this study was originally compiled to support a serial number-based dating guide. on this, the info online is your best source but it isn't really accurate; the fault resting with the factory as the serial numbers weren't associated with manufactoring/assembly data. It dispels so many of the myths out there about Ludwig drums, and was researched scientifically by using a large amount of data. Snare Badges and Finishes for Dec 10, 2011 · In the 9 1/2 years since this post was started, we have figured out a lot about Ludwig's use of serial numbers. com, July 14, 2020 and soon to be published on May 21, 2015 · In this article, we’ll be looking at the three best ways to identify a Ludwig: date stamp, serial number/badge style and shell construction. Other special features like badges, shell plys and the interior finish all help in giving you a date range of your drums manufacture. Few today agree on why or how drums escaped the factory with badges lacking serial numbers. Gretsch drums with serial numbers, Ludwig Keystone and B/O badge drums with serial numbers and date stamps, Ludwig Standards from 1968-73, and Ludwigs with paper labels from 1971-72 www. A couple years after I got my original Super Classics (January of '90) I was getting more toms and they came with 2. Rick Gier has based his research on the examination of thousands of Ludwig drums a Aug 5, 2005 · When I ordered my Vistalite kit in late 2010, it arrived in late Feb 2011 and all of the serial numbers were pretty close, BUTLudwig screwed up and sent me the wrong colored (yellow) 14 floor tom, so even though they got me the correct one (clear) in 2 weeks, the number on it is WAY off from the rest of the kit, thru no fault of my own. Further, if one relies upon Mr. I think they did the two badges so the badge could face out on either side of a mount. com Ludwig Serial Number Guide* Ludwig Drum Badge Number Guide* Keystone Badges. We then skip three years without using any serial numbers and use 373,000 serial numbers in 1976. May 9, 2016 · Ludwig stopped putting serial numbers on badges sometime in 2012-2013 and now use a barcoded sticker inside the drum. Cook's chart, there were only 60,000 serial numbers used in 1971 and 20,000 used in 1972. From serial number 3000000 and higher, the rounded corner B/O badge possessed an added feature - a thin black parallellogram around the serial number. Jun 4, 2015 · Learn how to estimate the age of your vintage Ludwig drum by comparing its serial number with a chart of date stamps. Nov 21, 2022 · Ludwig Modern Serial Number Decoder. gretschdrumdatingguide. Part IV - Dating Guide for Ludwig Standard Drums 1968-1973. Any estimate for drums made from 1972 and newer are just estimates and less precise than in earlier years. Oct 5, 2020 · I'm with K. These are recorded with serial numbers 3000000 to 3140000 and date stamps ~ 1982 to 1984. See charts, examples and explanations of discrepancies and variations. com Jun 15, 2011 · Re: help with modern ludwig serial numbers !!! Ludwig used 2 badges on toms for quite a while. Here are some references you can use to date by serial number. A repository of our manufacturing serial numbers listed out for your convenience. Dec 31, 2008 · An abridged article on dating Ludwig Drums Let’s have a look now at some numbers. (broken attachment removed) A bit of background about the Ludwig Serial Number date charts: The serial number chart in Cook's book and reproduced at the Ludwig site and Vintage Drum Guide is a . Part III - Linking Physical Characteristics to Serial Numbers and Date. This guide is presented with consent from The Vintage Drum Center Ludwig 1960's Serial Number Time Chart #1 Sep 30, 2020 · Richard E. Forenote: The first two means of indication, date stamp and serial number/badge style, are the two most accurate for identifying the correct year of production. [5] Richard E. Theories are often strongly expressed but weakly supported. Vintage Snare Drums online Ludwig, Slingerland, Leedy, Camco, Gretsch, Sonor, Pearl, Tama, Trixon, Rogers, Premier, Yamaha, Kent. Gier, Serial Number Based Dating Guides for Vintage Ludwig Drums: Main Line Drums 1963-1984 & Standard Drums 1968-1973, Rebeats Publications. That said, according to Richard Gier's excellent serial dating guide, your Acro is likely from early 1984. Oct 6, 2017 · Non-use of serial numbers would certainly impact the number of years it would take to reach 1170xxx. Throughout a drum’s life, it may be Serial numbers started in late 1963 and date stamps stopped for Ludwig in the 1972 time frame. This is the period when date stamps and serial numbers were both present. Year: Serial: 1969: 765XXX – 834XXX: 1970 (Out of sequence, unnumbered) 1971: 835XXX – 895XXX: 1972: 896XXX – 916XXX: 1976: 917XXX – 1290XXX: 1978: 450XXX See full list on reverb. Part VI - Badges Without Serial Numbers Jan 22, 2007 · 2. Part V - Deciphering the Date Codes . My 2012 classic maple set has sequential serial number B/O badges and the 14x14 I added in 2015 has the sticker inside. I really believe anyone interested in Ludwig drums should go out and buy it. Therefore, the time period shown is from late 1963 (when serial numbers were introduced) through early 1972 (when date stamps were discontinued). xjx agk qsasqu ync xtrnl kraqaenfn dvsvql dgnobm gkav kou